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Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« on: April 25, 2010, 02:52:35 PM »
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Cutting JaMarcus would save $6.45 million
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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 25, 2010 12:03 PM ET

The Oakland Raiders have already paid JaMarcus Russell $36 million for a whole lot of nothing. So do they now view him as a sunk cost or could they possibly pour more money down the drain? The Raiders can save $6.45 million by cutting Russell before the start of the season. Russell has said in the past he won't take a pay cut, and that's far too much money to pay for a guy if he's Jason Campbell's backup. Tom Cable said there are "decisions" to be made at quarterback, but expects Russell to attend Oakland's post-draft minicamp Friday. We'll see. The Raiders would be risking the $6.45 million by keeping Russell in the offseason. They would owe him the money if he got hurt in workouts and placed on injured reserve. The San Francisco Chronicle believes Cable hinted at Russell's departure: "Adding Jason [Campbell] to this football team was very important," Cable said. "He is a guy in need of a fresh start himself." The Raiders are an organization in need of fresh start. That can only happen with Russell elsewhere.
In an otherwise very, very good draft (if McCalin is truly healthy), it seems utterly inexplicable to understand why the Raiders passed up Clausen - especially when he was available late in the draft.  Ostensibly, the reason why the Raiders have not cut Russell, is likely tied to the very same reason the Raiders did not draft Clausen in the first place - even when he was available later; they simply do not want to cut Russell - yet.

Al Davis invested not only precious capital ($$$$) in Russell, but also his pride - we can all recall where he tried to roast Kiffen, by stating that Russell is a great player and that he should have gotten over the it.  Now, it seems that this same pride has kept the Raiders from seriously addressing their quarterback needs.  Make no mistake, though Campbell definitely seems like an upgrade from Russell, he does not appear to be a long term solution.

Thus it seems that the Raiders are simply more interested in giving Russell another opportunity to prove Davis right than in building toward the future on more solid ground. By not drafting Clausen, but instead trading for Campbell the Raiders are doing two things:
1) Giving Russell strong incentive to restructure his contract, rather than taking the money and walking. 
2) Throwing a bone to Raider fans and the team who desperately want to see some improvement.

To put it plainly, Campbell simply does not represent the same threat Clausen would, which in essence is saying to Russell, your best opportunity to be a starter in this league is still with the Raiders; restructure your contract and you will be given an opportunity to compete with Campbell for the starting position.  In contrast, if Clausen were to be on board it would be unlikely that Russell would even consider restructuring his contract - since Russell (and his agent) would see that the it would be wiser to take the money than compete with a smart, tough, accurate quarterback.

Thus, with Campbell there is more incentive to restructure, but with Clausen there is much less and that is seemingly why the Raiders passed up the great, great opportunity to address a position of serious need.  Essentially, even if Clausen were to have fallen to the seventh round, the Raiders still would not have taken him, not because Clausen has no potential, but rather because Davis' has his pride.  While many would be correct in stating that this draft was a very, very, solid draft only a lemming would not see the folly of putting pride before logic.

All this being stated, Al Davis knows football and I am not about to allow my own pride to blind me to the possibility that maybe Davis sees something in Russell that I have not seen and by challenging Russell in this manner, he hopes to bring out the best in him.  As Raider fans, we can hope that Davis is more motivated by his football knowledge than his pride here, but I honestly find that unlikely.  While lemmings may be ecstatic with Campbell and the draft, wiser fans have to question the motivations of a team that passed up the opportunity to address a position of serious need so many times.

Will JaMarcus restructure or not?  For better or worse, Davis has done just about everything in his power to motivate Russell into restructuring, but now Russell has a decision to make.

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 03:52:56 PM »
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Cutting JaMarcus would save $6.45 million
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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 25, 2010 12:03 PM ET

The Oakland Raiders have already paid JaMarcus Russell $36 million for a whole lot of nothing. So do they now view him as a sunk cost or could they possibly pour more money down the drain? The Raiders can save $6.45 million by cutting Russell before the start of the season. Russell has said in the past he won't take a pay cut, and that's far too much money to pay for a guy if he's Jason Campbell's backup. Tom Cable said there are "decisions" to be made at quarterback, but expects Russell to attend Oakland's post-draft minicamp Friday. We'll see. The Raiders would be risking the $6.45 million by keeping Russell in the offseason. They would owe him the money if he got hurt in workouts and placed on injured reserve. The San Francisco Chronicle believes Cable hinted at Russell's departure: "Adding Jason [Campbell] to this football team was very important," Cable said. "He is a guy in need of a fresh start himself." The Raiders are an organization in need of fresh start. That can only happen with Russell elsewhere.
In an otherwise very, very good draft (if McCalin is truly healthy), it seems utterly inexplicable to understand why the Raiders passed up Clausen - especially when he was available late in the draft.  Ostensibly, the reason why the Raiders have not cut Russell, is likely tied to the very same reason the Raiders did not draft Clausen in the first place - even when he was available later; they simply do not want to cut Russell - yet.

Al Davis invested not only precious capital ($$$$) in Russell, but also his pride - we can all recall where he tried to roast Kiffen, by stating that Russell is a great player and that he should have gotten over the it.  Now, it seems that this same pride has kept the Raiders from seriously addressing their quarterback needs.  Make no mistake, though Campbell definitely seems like an upgrade from Russell, he does not appear to be a long term solution.

Thus it seems that the Raiders are simply more interested in giving Russell another opportunity to prove Davis right than in building toward the future on more solid ground. By not drafting Clausen, but instead trading for Campbell the Raiders are doing two things:
1) Giving Russell strong incentive to restructure his contract, rather than taking the money and walking. 
2) Throwing a bone to Raider fans and the team who desperately want to see some improvement.

To put it plainly, Campbell simply does not represent the same threat Clausen would, which in essence is saying to Russell, your best opportunity to be a starter in this league is still with the Raiders; restructure your contract and you will be given an opportunity to compete with Campbell for the starting position.  In contrast, if Clausen were to be on board it would be unlikely that Russell would even consider restructuring his contract - since Russell (and his agent) would see that the it would be wiser to take the money than compete with a smart, tough, accurate quarterback.

Thus, with Campbell there is more incentive to restructure, but with Clausen there is much less and that is seemingly why the Raiders passed up the great, great opportunity to address a position of serious need.  Essentially, even if Clausen were to have fallen to the seventh round, the Raiders still would not have taken him, not because Clausen has no potential, but rather because Davis' has his pride.  While many would be correct in stating that this draft was a very, very, solid draft only a lemming would not see the folly of putting pride before logic.

All this being stated, Al Davis knows football and I am not about to allow my own pride to blind me to the possibility that maybe Davis sees something in Russell that I have not seen and by challenging Russell in this manner, he hopes to bring out the best in him.  As Raider fans, we can hope that Davis is more motivated by his football knowledge than his pride here, but I honestly find that unlikely.  While lemmings may be ecstatic with Campbell and the draft, wiser fans have to question the motivations of a team that passed up the opportunity to address a position of serious need so many times.

Will JaMarcus restructure or not?  For better or worse, Davis has done just about everything in his power to motivate Russell into restructuring, but now Russell has a decision to make.

Al Davis is not going to give that guy 6.5 million to eat french fries..They are giving him a chance to take a pay cut..THATS ALL! I f he wants to play in the NFL he'll take the 6.5 cut,If not..he's out of the NFL...NO OTHER TEAM WILL PAY HIM 3 MILLION TO PLAY THIS YEAR.....If he was smart..he would take the 3 million and show up motivated,because the only value he has left is how he plays,if you go on how he has been playing he ain't worth sh't!

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 03:58:34 PM »
I agree; I believe Davis' does want Russell to take a pay cut, but he also does not want to cut Russell.  That is why I think he orchestrated this so as to give Russell incentive to restructure rather than simply cutting him.

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 04:09:48 PM »
Russell wont take the cut and i hope he does get shit canned. I am tired of hearing how he has potential and all that bull but aint showing nothing but how good his bling looks. Its time to put up or shut up for him. I hope Campbell takes the starting job and shows what Russell should have been doing these few years. Hell if he only throws one less int and one more td i would be happy because its improvement.

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 05:46:06 PM »
Russell wont take the cut and i hope he does get shit canned. I am tired of hearing how he has potential and all that bull but aint showing nothing but how good his bling looks. Its time to put up or shut up for him. I hope Campbell takes the starting job and shows what Russell should have been doing these few years. Hell if he only throws one less int and one more td i would be happy because its improvement.

I can just hear Russell's agent.."Take the cut and show up ready to play or find a new agent",and if he's cut..I suspect another team will bring him into camp next year at bottom bag salary,but he can do himself a lot of good if he comes into camp and gives his all this year.

Personoly..I don't think he ever had game even in College,so he should take his free 32 million he has, go play craps, and eat baby's aka Fat Bastard!

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 05:50:46 PM »
I'm going in a different direction with this one.  I'm thinking that Al is going to show the ruthless Marcus Allen side.  He will make him restructure and will still cut him! If there is one thing that we know about Al Davis, it is this... He does not take fool around when he's pissed off.  If he *****D Marcus Allen over... he will certainly stick it to russell and I don't blame him!!!

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 11:39:51 PM »
I'm going in a different direction with this one.  I'm thinking that Al is going to show the ruthless Marcus Allen side.  He will make him restructure and will still cut him! If there is one thing that we know about Al Davis, it is this... He does not take fool around when he's pissed off.  If he *****D Marcus Allen over... he will certainly stick it to russell and I don't blame him!!!
Lol, interesting - I am curious to see what happens.

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 05:11:26 PM »
Whoa... this article says he's tipping the scales at 300 lbs now...

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 07:28:12 PM »
Whoa... this article says he's tipping the scales at 300 lbs now...

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No offense to rather large people,but I don't like fat ass qb's who can't complete a pass to the grass!!

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 09:03:09 PM »
he will be featured on "Outside the lines" in a couple of years after he is broke

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 12:22:43 AM »
he will be featured on "Outside the lines" in a couple of years after he is broke


Yeah..If he's 300+ pounds he's pretty much going to be cut on or before this weekends camp.

A great line from the movie "Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead" says it all.....BUCKWHEAT!

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 05:15:43 AM »
We're living in the age of entitlement, where people get away with lousy work ethics and because of political correctness, don't get called out on the carpet for anything. Russell was terrible at 265 or 270 lbs. Unless this extra 30 lbs was in added brain-mass, I can't see it being a positive factor. Right now, don't we have like 5 or 6 QBs on the roster? Russell has to rank dead last behind all of them. I am actually praying for his release. The Raiders tried the same motivational signing with Garcia last year and Russell responded by going to the refrigerator, then going to Vegas. PLEASE AL...DO THE RIGHT THING

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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2010, 12:21:07 PM »
I'm going in a different direction with this one.  I'm thinking that Al is going to show the ruthless Marcus Allen side.  He will make him restructure and will still cut him! If there is one thing that we know about Al Davis, it is this... He does not take fool around when he's pissed off.  If he *****D Marcus Allen over... he will certainly stick it to russell and I don't blame him!!!


Absolutely right,Jadipsh't will be in camp but he wont be allowed to do anything,and after a few days of hit the showers he will quit on his own ,he will call ESPISSN saying Al Davis put a fork in his ass..Breach of contract..Al will then get the whole 9.5 million back.....Very Interesting weekend in Raiderland.
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Re: Why Russell Isn't Cut - yet.
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2010, 01:23:47 PM »
I'm going in a different direction with this one.  I'm thinking that Al is going to show the ruthless Marcus Allen side.  He will make him restructure and will still cut him! If there is one thing that we know about Al Davis, it is this... He does not take fool around when he's pissed off.  If he *****D Marcus Allen over... he will certainly stick it to russell and I don't blame him!!!


Absolutely right,Jadipsh't will be in camp but he wont be allowed to do anything,and after a few days of hit the showers he will quit on his own , call ESPISSN saying Al Davis put a fork in his ass..Breach of contract..Al will then get the whole 9.5 million back.....Very Interesting weekend in Raiderland.


Al is working on his powerpoint presentation and prepared statement. He can only add as fast as he can work his abacus to add and subtract the pounds JBust had loss and gained during his tenure. Madden is at his house drawing up a diagram on his telestrator to show where most of the pounds have been put on and circling where there is a lack of football talent.
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